[LotGH Comparison] OVA & DNT – Geiersburg warp scene

I haven't followed this series for a while, but I really appreciate them for utilizing the full potential of modern animation technique. They actually made Geiersburg warp experiment to be a dramatic historical moment compared to the original. I also love that little detail of the command ordering surrounding ships to move away before the experiment. It makes it really look like a complex and giant undertaking.

I think DNT shines with the first warp scene and the original for the second warp not because of the CGI (although admittedly, the CGI made the first one really good) but because of a writing rule on tension.

To "feel" the impact of witnessing an event, the POV character must be directly endangered by the consequences of the event, or the event itself. In the DNT warp, we see a lot of the nameless ships have voices (and thus have a POV for a few seconds) and see first hand the dangers of the massive warp. The same goes for Reinhard'd fleet, as the Brunhildr itself was shaken significantly because of the warp. The original does not do this well since it's just a few characters looking at a screen.

BUT, the original does the warp into the Iserlohn Corridor SO MUCH BETTER because of the apparent danger that the nameless bridge crew were facing. Not only were they destroyed, but they also stumbled upon a massive fucking fortress with a patrol force.

DNT really hit home for me over the original

OVA had better writing, but DNT had the best graphics.

The new thesis does well in the graphic department, although i kind of dislike the amount of close ups

The old one does spectacularly on the second jump out. It just hits the size and impact of the fortress. Albeit the first jump lacks a bit of bravado like another pointed out

New one certainly wins in looks. But the older is more subtle and realistic. In the original it is understood that the Geiersburg warp was only the first step to recapturing Iserholn. But in the new one Reinhard immediately and dramatically declares war after the successful test? hold up there, buddy.

ノイエはカウントダウン、ドイツ語読みじゃないんか。

Random YouTube suggestion, but nice, thanks for the upload

ユリシーズの名シーンが後続作品のエンディングにないとは、マジか！？

I much prefer the Ova’s character focus, with Reuenthal and Mittermeyer's insights, opinions and anxiousness being the highlight. No one actually cares about the Geiersburg Warp itself. it’s simply a means to an end. A tool. It’s not supposed to be a “hype” moment. It either succeeds and Reinhard moves on with the plan, or it fails and Schaft gets punished for causing needless losses. DNT continues to choose the wrong things to accentuate.

The new scene is atractive, but THE old one is effective. I think old team put more passion, time, engament and thinking in to this adaption. Anime needs to be a well made story told by a video, not a book put in to montion.
For the "look" the only important thing is comprehensive symbolism – graphics, human brain will make the rest.
Anyway… Expressions and voices are mostly better, probably, but it's better to badly express good writing, than greattly express bad writing.

OVA: Ships are pretty diverse together in technology, class, shape, year of commission, colors and sizes.
DNT: One big, One small, just change it color and little upgrade on existing ship for the famous ship/ admiral.

wow is this season 3 of DNT?

We will reach the stars, Kircheis

So far, I've avoided Die Neue These as I felt somewhat at odds, having relished on the original. But seeing this made so magnificently, I think I'll give it a try after all….

ロイエンタールの「ここに爆弾〜」の台詞は旧作ではカットされたところですが、彼のラインハルトへの複雑な感情、それに対して気が気でないミッターマイヤーの気遣いは旧作がよく表れている。
ナレーションは誰かな？旧作は屋良さんだったが。
ニルソン艦長はウランフ提督と同じ大林隆之介さん。モブ以外１キャラ声優１人に拘って、男性声優を枯渇させたと言われる銀英伝ですが、この方は珍しい被り。
あとは阪さんと鈴置さんぐらい。
新作声優については色々意見もありますが、前述の通り男性声優枯渇させた旧作と比べるのは酷。ただやはり「陰険漫才」がやや省略されてしまうと残念。なぜなら、銀英伝の台詞は結構伏線ばかりなので、省略すると後々続編制作で苦労します。
たぶん、新作の構成は最終回までに伏線回収することは考えて構成していないんでしょうね。
ちなみに、ガイエスブルク要塞が出現するシーンは原作では戦艦ヒスパニオラ、指揮官はＪ・ギブソン大佐でしたが、旧作アニメではユリシーズに差し替えになっています。これは「あの艦は索敵に出すといつも敵を連れてくる」という後のムライのボヤきを引き立たせる演出でした。
ヒスパニオラのオペレーターは発見して絶句したところで場面が変わるので、ひょっとしたら撃沈したかもしれません。
新作ではイゼルローン要塞の前に突然現れるという演出に変えたようですね。

The problem is that hand drawn is better, the CGI does not fit with the rest of the setting so it stands out as looking worse than everything else. The characters in the new one look more generic and look more alike than in the original. If you showed me the characters from the new one they would match any generic anime. The original is far more subtle and generally that's what makes it better. Flash over substance. This shit looks like a video game in the middle of my anime.

戦艦ユリシーズの反転離脱が
早いこと早いこと

The OST version seems closer to what it would actually be like in reality, as if there were an actual journalist at the scene, while the DNT version seems like the epic retelling for storybook versions of a pivotal moment in history.

Obviously, the latter is more of a spectacle. So, as a consumer of this fictional story adaption, I enjoyed the DNT version more. But if we were to grade it against the story's idea of itself being a documentary (the OST stuck by this philosophy), then the OST version is better.

That said, the OST's version of the "Geiersburg arrives in Iserlohn Corridor" scene was miles better. You could really see the different readiness states, expressions and quick decisions of each of the unnamed ship bridge crew. The music seemed fitting as well; sort of sombre and classical, fitting the dangerous escalation in the story yet also documentary-like feel of the adaptation. The DNT version seemed forced; what are those 3 commanding officers (Patrichev, Fish something and the other guy) doing just standing there in a line, just waiting for something big to happen (when they don't know if something big is going to happen?).

Overall, I still think the OST adaptation is the better story. Its graphics are really ancient by modern standards, but they've servicable for a good story. DNT makes everyone seem like 10 years younger and its so jarring.

Mmm I can't really decide which i like more…

新旧での比較についてリメイク版をあまり受け入れられない点もあるだろうが時代が変わるにつれ流行等や仕様も変わってくるのでそこは難しいが受け入れるしかないとは思っている。 例えば声優の演技が下手との声も聞くが個人的にDNTは全体的に落ち着いた感じで現代の雰囲気にあっている気がする。 DNTのキャラデザに関しては最近の若者に興味を持って欲しいという意図なのかもしれないですね。

DNT版の方が旧作よりも専門用語が複数飛び交ってて臨場感があるように感じる。
ただ戦艦ユリシーズが要塞ワープアウトに出くわすシーンが差し替えられたのはちょっと残念。
DNTだと戦艦ユリシーズ、ただのネームド モブ艦になっちゃってるのがなぁ……外観は好きなんだけど。

Although I prefer the original anime, I must say that the new models used in both the Empire/Free Alliance fleets are cool.

On of the epic moment in saga. Suddenly that emperor hadn't managed to recover the balance by destroying the Iserolon fortress and open Iserolon way.

dntのガイエスブルク要塞がビホルダーにしか見えない

The VA on the Alliance PoV is absolutely amazing

今期のガイエスブルグの登場シーンの方が怖いなぁ。技術の進歩だね～～＾＾流石です！

Warp test scene was great in DNT, but the scene of Geiesburg entering Isehron's corridor was HUGE downgrade compared to OVA. Also, it's a bummer that DNT left out mobility test from novel and OVA completely. For some reason I always loved that scene.

大規模曲率移動作戰
蓋伊斯堡要塞

なんかセルアニメにCGのメカを合わせると、玩具みたいにみえる。脚本、演出、声優の演技…旧作の方が良いとはっきりわかるね。

比べて見ると映像面の進化が凄まじい……。現代の若者視点で正直に言わせてもらうと、今時はやっぱり映像の良し悪しで見るかどうか選ばれるんだよな。その作品に触れて最初に見るのはサムネだから